proCanes.com is continuing our “Tracking
proCanes” feature with someone who is not a
former University of Miami Athlete, but nonetheless an
alum of the University of Miami and is heavily involved
in spreading the spirit of the University of Miami
Athletic program, specifically the football program,
through his new film “The U” which will air
on ESPN on December 12th at 9pm after the Heisman
Trophy Presentation.
Billy Corben was
born in Florida and graduated from the University of
Miami where he majored in political science,
screenwriting and theater. His feature documentary
directorial debut, “Raw Deal: A Question of
Consent,” premiered at the Sundance Film Festival
in 2001, making him one of the youngest directors in
Sundance history. Examining the alleged rape of an
exotic dancer at a fraternity house at the University
of Florida, the film utilized extensive clips from
videotape footage of the alleged assault. Considered by
critics to be “one of the most controversial
films of the modern day” and “one of the
most compelling pieces of non-fiction ever
produced,” (Film Threat Magazine), “Raw
Deal” has been seen all over the world. Following
that success, Corben and producing partner Alfred
Spellman founded
rakontur, a Miami Beach-based
content creation company, and took on another
Florida true-crime story, this one closer to home.
The New York Times called “Cocaine
Cowboys” “a hypervent-ilating account
of the blood-drenched Miami drug culture in the
1970s and 1980s.”
Corben is now putting the finishing
touches on the film, “The U” which is
described here: Throughout the 1980s, Miami, Florida,
was at the center of a racial and cultural shift taking
place throughout the country. Overwhelmed by riots and
tensions, Miami was a city in flux, and the University
of Miami football team served as a microcosm for this
evolution. The image of the predominantly white
university was forever changed when coach Howard
Schnellenberger scoured some of the toughest ghettos in
Florida to recruit mostly black players for his team.
With a newly branded swagger, inspired and fueled by
the quickly growing local Miami hip hop culture, these
Hurricanes took on larger-than-life personalities and
won four national titles between 1983 and 1991.
Filmmaker Billy Corben, a Miami native and University
of Miami alum, will tell the story of how these
“Bad Boys” of football changed the attitude
of the game they played, and how this serene campus was
transformed into “The U.”

proCanes: How did you
come up with the idea for the film?
Billy Corben: Everyone in our company,
Rakontur, are Miami natives basically. So one of the
mandates of our company is to not only tell great
stories, but tell great Miami stories. The Hurricanes
of the 80’s in particular is one of those great
Miami stories. It was one of those stories on our list
for a long a time to tell and we had an opportunity to
pitch it to ESPN and we took that opportunity. The
inspiration was really growing up in Miami and seeing
the dramatic impact, not only in sports, but in our
community in terms of pop culture, in terms of the
merging of sports and entertainment, this profound
effect the Miami Hurricanes had being the team of the
80’s.
pC: What's the official name of the film?
BC: The temporary working title of the
movie was “Hurricane Season,” and now it is
“The U” and just “The U.” There
have been some internal discussions about adding a
subheading to it, but right now it is just called
“The U”
pC: How did you end up partnering with ESPN?
BC: Like I said, this story of the
Hurricanes of the 80’s was on our short list, of
great Miami stories that we wanted to tell and ESPN
Films was doing some really great work and we called
them up and Connor Schell, he happened to have been
from Miami and gone to high school in Miami and he knew
all about this story of course, not to mention he was a
big Cocaine Cowboys fan which was really exciting and
fortuitous for us. We went up to New York and met with
everybody at ESPN films and eventually went to the
Bristol CT headquarters and met all the people we have
been working very close with on this movie and they
loved the idea. They loved our take on it. They loved
our angle on it. To their credit, they loved that we
were also alumni and graduates of the University [of
Miami] working on it. They’ve also given us a lot
of creative freedom and autonomy on this project to
tell it in our voice. It’s definitely ESPN Films
presents, there’s no doubt about that, but it is
our voice, it is Rakontur’s voice telling the
story just like all the 30 for 30’s. These are
all personal stories. All the filmmakers have a
personal relationship with these stories and it’s
no different here with Rakontur, me and the Hurricanes.
ESPN is producing over the course of just a couple of
short years, 30 movies with 30 filmmakers. I mean movie
studios these days don’t even do that. So they
are working their asses off, to help all of us craft
these individual unique visions, 30 of them.
They’ve just been incredibly cooperative and
helpful and supportive to work with. I really
appreciate and I can’t imagine having made this
movie with anyone else and for anyone else other than
ESPN. We approached them, we pitched the story, they
loved it and have been behind us ever since.

pC: You went to UM,
were you always a UM fan?
BC: My grandfather had season tickets in
the 40’s in the Orange Bowl and as long as I have
been alive, my dad has had season tickets to first the
Orange Bowl and now of course Joe Robbie, Pro Player,
Dolphin, Land Shark Stadium, J-Lo Stadium whatever the
hell it’s called. I think it’s Buffet
Stadium, that would be fun at least or we should just
call it Margaritaville. Why don’t we just call it
Margaritaville and drop stadium from it? My dad has had
season tickets as long as I have been alive and I grew
up going to ‘Canes games. Whenever I could go, I
would. I’m talking about five years old at the
Orange Bowl. Some scary stuff. The Orange Bowl was
quite an intimidating environment for a little kid. You
could actually feel the stands move and shake as the
crowd built up and roared and back in the 80’s,
the crowd would often get built up and roar. I remember
the feeling of that stadium. It felt like that stadium
was going to come apart as everybody was stomping and
cheering and screaming. I remember even being that
young and realizing what an absolute sensation this
team was, and these players were. I was conscious, even
then, of a good show, the spectacle of a great story.
You could just look down at the field, at that stage
and know you were witnessing the greatest show on
earth. I’ve never seen football or entertainment
like that since. It’s a shame. It’s a shame
that football can’t be that fun and that
passionate and that exciting and that enthusiastic.
Later, you know, we have the Miami rules, the excessive
celebrations penalties which are just ludicrous and
literally take the joy and the thrill out of a game
being played by 18, 19, 20-year old kids and you would
hope they would be able to enjoy it now as much as they
enjoyed it then and as much as the crowd enjoyed them
enjoying it.
pC: What's your favorite memory of the
Hurricanes when growing up?
BC: It’s tough because I was so
young going to some of these early games. In high
school, when I have more distinct memories I
didn’t go to as many games as I would’ve
liked to, in fact I didn’t go to any of the
Championship games at the Orange Bowl, unfortunately.
My dad had friends to take with those tickets and he
wasn’t going to let me have one of those tickets
or maybe he sold them, who knows! Those were expensive
tickets, even in those days, so who knows.
pC: How different was it
doing a film like this as opposed to Cocaine Cowboys?
BC: Well, no joke, they’re
actually very very similar. One is about Miami and
cocaine and one is about Miami and college football, so
see, they’re very much alike! [Laughter] In fact,
Cocaine Cowboys fans will find that structurally there
are a lot of similarities. Cocaine Cowboys opens with
the city of Miami, as a sleepy little town. “The
U” opens with the University of Miami as this
institution of higher learning with a not so great
football team going through six coaches in seven
seasons, just really on the verge of extinction. The
University of Miami had already cut basketball and
football was the obvious next step for the trustees to
cut and they managed to get one more lease on life,
higher one more head coach, to see if they could make
some thing happen and they happen to higher Howard
Schnellenberger, which was of course the big shift in
the fate of this program. So, the movies [Cocaine
Cowboys, The U] kind of begin similarly in that regard
with the old archival footage of the campus, which was
a very lily-white campus in Coral Gables. We have this
old classic tourism film about Coral Gables, just like
at the beginning of Cocaine Cowboys we have those
tourism films of Miami and Miami Beach and you’re
about to see the Cocaine Cowboys come in and turn the
city upside down and turn it into what it is today and
the same thing happens in “The U.” In comes
this remarkable football team, these groups of men,
these different teams that made up the Hurricanes in
that decade and they’re about to come in turn the
campus upside down, college football upside down and
eventually professional football on its head. So,
really, they’re actually very similar films and
not to mention there’s a nostalgia today for both
the Cocaine Cowboys era in Miami where anything goes,
it was the wild west, there was a lot of money, a lot
of parties a lot of fun, even though here was murder
and mayhem, you still have that nostalgia. Same thing
with the Canes, there’s an even greater nostalgia
for the ‘Canes of the 80’s and the
exuberance and enthusiasm and style that they brought
to the game despite the fact that there was some
negativity some negative press some bad news from the
program and that time period. There is still that very
strong passion and nostalgia for the ‘Canes of
the 80’s just like the Miami of the 80’s of
Cocaine Cowboys.

pC: Who would you say
was your favorite interviewee?
BC: Man, that’s tough. That is
tough because we did something like 40 interviews of
head coaches, assistant coaches, players, from
quarterbacks, wide receivers to some of the greatest
defensive players to ever play the game of college or
professional football. This is a real tough one.
Finally we just got the Michael Irvin interview so
there is a certain sweet smell of success there and he
was as good, as we knew he was going to be in his
interview. Jimmy Johnson was sensational. Lamar Thomas
was hilarious. Bernie Kosar was a sweetheart and
offered a lot of great insights that we wouldn’t
have otherwise gotten had we not interviewed him.
Alonzo Highsmith was great. Mel Bratton was great.
Jeremy Shockey, you had no idea what that guy was going
to say next, he was a classic interview. That’s a
real tough one. Which one was my favorite? Too hard to
say, too hard to say.
pC: How long will the feature be for ESPN?
BC: We’re going to get a two-hour
broadcast block so without commercials the total
running time of the movie is going to be about 100
minutes, which is barely enough time to tell the story
of the four national championships that we’re
telling. 1983, 1987, 1989, 1991 seasons. It’s
tight squeeze, it’s tight squeeze.
pC: How difficult was it to get the player
interviews, were former players receptive to the idea?
BC: Good question. Very little trouble
getting the interviews from the players. Except for
Michael Irvin, which was a bit more of an uphill
battle, but ultimately he agreed to talk to us and was
terrific. Like Michael Irvin said and a lot of these
guys said, the years playing for the Hurricanes were
some of, if not the best years of their lives. To call
someone up and say “hey will you come and talk
about some of the best years of your lives”
doesn’t require a lot of arm twisting. The
biggest problem was the University of Miami who was not
supportive in the least of the project, which was funny
because I did the math, of our full-time employees at
Rakontur and the independent contractors that worked on
“The U” and we have combined, no less than
20 years, 20 years, at the University of Miami, that we
spent as students. You do the math, that’s at
least 2 million dollars in tuition, at least, for all
of us and all the years and semesters we spent there.
Not to mention we still get multiple emails a day
asking us to donate money to the University and yet I
approached the University of Miami as an alumni, as a
graduate. I said “hey can we get access to your
archives, your photos, your films, we’d like to
interview Randy Shannon, we’d like to interview
Paul Dee” and they told us to go screw ourselves.
Here we are, School of Communication graduates made
good, telling the definitive story of the University of
Miami Hurricanes in this era for ESPN, one of the
biggest, if not the biggest cable networks in the
universe, basically producing a two-hour infomercial
for the University of Miami. They should put
Rakontur’s name on a building when this is all
done. I don’t know how they measure in cash, the
contribution of a two-hour primetime infomercial for
the University of Miami and the extraordinary history
of the football program. Nine p.m. after the Heisman
Trophy ceremony on ESPN. I was really disappointed at
the level of professionalism or lack thereof, and lack
of support that we got from the Athletic Department and
the University administration. They should really be
ashamed of themselves of how they treat their alumni.
It’s not like we went to them for money, we
didn’t need money, ESPN was financing the thing.
We went to them for support. Let us interview some
people who are currently employed by you. Let us get
some access to some of your archival materials and like
I said, they sent us packing. Considering the quality
of education that I got at the University of Miami for
the money I spent, I like to say it’s a TJ Maxx
education at Neiman Marcus prices. The least they could
do was be professional and be courteous to alumni.
I resigned my position on the Citizens Board, a very
prestigious Board of both alumni and influential people
in the community who are actively involved in
fundraising efforts for every program of the
University. I resigned as a result of the disrespect
that the University showed us. What was interesting
about it, was that the University not only blocked our
access the small handful of people, Randy Shannon and
Paul Dee mostly, who are currently employed by them who
we needed the University’s permission in order to
get access to them for an interview. Not only did they
block that, but they attempted be obstructionists about
it. They were telling other people such as Coach
[Dennis] Erickson, not to give us an interview.
It’s one thing to say, no we can’t as a
University endorse, though we didn’t ask for
their endorsement, participate in this, it’s
another thing for them to go out and try to obstruct
our ability and access to people that are no longer
employed by the University. So we went out to Arizona
State to interview Coach Erickson and he said
‘you know, I called the University to follow-up
on this request and to see about the project and they
told me not to do it.’ I was like
“you’re kidding?” It’s one
thing for the University to say we’re not
participating and do whatever you want but to tell
someone not to participate?
Fortunately for us, everybody pretty much, especially
the players, didn’t care what the University had
to say, certainly were not going to be kept from
telling their story. That’s literally what this
is; this is the player’s stories. If you’ve
seen any of our Rakontur documentaries Cocaine Cowboys,
Cocaine Cowboys Two, Raw Deal, A Question of Consent
there’s no narrator there’s no real point
of view of the filmmakers forced upon the movie.
It’s not a Michael Moore movie. It’s not a
big expose or anything. This is their opportunity to
tell their story in the first person. I always say
Rakontur is first person productions. It’s not
about “they and he” it’s about
“I” and “we” and that’s
what we got here fortunately, because the players
weren’t going to listen [to the University]. The
players didn’t listen to the administration back
when Tad Foote was trying to implement a code of
conduct and dress codes, so they’re sure not
going to listen to the administration now telling them
not to participate and thank goodness for them. These
are men of character and men who are great characters
and fortunately I think virtually everyone we
approached, now that Michael Irvin gave us the
interview, pretty much everyone we approached said
‘yes’ except for a very small handful of
people employed by the University.

pC: Talk about going
down to Jimmy Johnson's house in the keys.
BC: Holy crap. Jimmy Johnson has life
perfected, perfected. He makes Jimmy Buffet look like a
stockbroker. This guy is doing retirement right.
It’s amazing. He’s got this beautiful
house, right on the ocean, and he very graciously
invited us down there to interview him. We had a real
small window of opportunity because, as he put it, he
could ‘hear those fish biting out there’
and literally the background of the shot while
we’re interviewing him is his fishing biddies
loading up his fishing boat that’s in the
background of the shot. They’re putting the bait
on, the light beers, because Jimmy’s on light
beers now, he’s on a diet, they’re loading
up the Subway sandwiches, the fishing rods like right
in the background of the shot [laughter]. They’re
like ‘sorry guy we’re just running
through!’ and Jimmy was like let’s do this,
let’s do this. So we ran the interview and
literally the last thing we did was just an intro we
recorded and he said ‘alright guys, thank you,
that’s it!’ He leapt down off the chair,
ran into the background of the shot, jumped on his
fishing boat and they just took off into the Atlantic
[Ocean] to go fishing. It was awesome. There we all
were, me and my crew just standing there with all of
our equipment set up in Jimmy Johnson’s back yard
thinking this is the coolest job ever. I got him and
everybody else to sign this football. I mean everybody
that we interviewed signed this football and it’s
amazing. It’s like 40 signatures from the
greatest players, coaches assistant coaches and one of
the greatest athletic directors, Sam Jankovich, who
signed this ball. It’s an amazing artifact that
we have from making this movie.
pC: I assume you have a lot of footage that
won't be shown on the ESPN feature, what will you do
with that?
BC: That’s a great question too,
because we always have a glut of extra footage.
We’ll probably have some proCanes.com exclusive
deleted scene that you can embed on the site at some
point before or after the movie premiers. We’re
definitely putting together quite a DVD package. To me
actually, as a movie buff and DVD collector, my number
one, top bonus feature that I look for in a DVD, if I
am going to buy it or rented it or whatever, is deleted
scenes. To that end, all of our DVDs, Cocaine Cowboys
One especially, Raw Deal, A Question of Consent, on
those two DVDs we put over 30 minutes of deleted scenes
and deleted footage on there. That to me is a real
serious value. That’s another 30 minutes of movie
that you didn’t get and not to mention it’s
a real insight into the film making process because you
have to make a lot of tough decisions when you’re
editing a movie especially a movie that has to be 100
minutes for television that’s got to tell the
story of the Canes from the late 70’s into the
early 90’s. I mean, obviously, as you said in
your question, a lot of footage is going to wind up on
proverbial cutting room floor. Fortunately there is no
cutting room floor, it’s all digital non-linear
editing, so we have all of those scenes, deleted lines,
deleted scenes, deleted sequences, we have them all in
a lock box in a folder in Final Cut Pro where we can go
back to and access those for additional content.
It’s definitely something whether it’s on
proCanes.com, the ESPN website, certainly on the DVD
you’re going to get a whole lot more of
“The U” after the movie premiers.
pC: What phase are you in terms of the feature?
Done? Editing?
BC: Man, oh man. This is an epic. ESPN
is doing these 30 for 30’s which is 30 different
documentaries by 30 different filmmakers about some
extraordinary sports story of the last 30 years to
celebrate ESPN’s 30th anniversary. They first
came on in the fall of 1979, so right now they’re
celebrating the 30th anniversary. When ESPN picked us
up, we were not a part of the 30 for 30 series and then
they announced the 30 for 30 series and told us that we
were going to be one of the only two-hour 30 for 30s
because the rest of them were all one hour. So, really
all of the 30 for 30s are pretty much about one player
or one game or in the case Barry Levinson, one band,
the Baltimore Marching Band and this movie is an epic,
it’s an epic. It’s one of the few, if not
only, 30 for 30s that is about four national
championships in under 10 years of a single team. This
is an epic!

To that end, it has been an
ongoing editing process not to mention that we
just got a Michael Irvin on October 29th. We had
locked pictures, so we thought several weeks ago,
Two weeks ago we did live recording sessions that
we put live on U-Stream so you could hear live a
14-piece orchestra all week long recording the
music. Halloween weekend we spent editing the
Michael Irvin sound bites into the movie which of
course will make the movie longer which means we
will have to cut other things out which means the
shape and timing of the movie is going to change.
We are still very much editing the movie but at
the same time we are also recording the score, the
original music, we are actually recording an
original song, actually this is breaking news, I
don’t think anybody knows about this. We are
recording an original song, main title song, theme
song with Luther Campbell last week which was
pretty incredible. It’s an old school Miami
based two live crew sounding styled song, which
Luther is going to do the lead vocals on.
We’re doing the graphics work, designing a
beautiful lower thirds effect, I’m not going
to give away the surprise but it’s a pretty
bad ass concept very consistent with the spirit of
the U. We’ve got some beautiful graphics
work and animation that’s going on right
now. So we’re really doing everything at the
same time right now to try and finish this movie.
ESPN said the movie is premiering December 12th at
9pm, I told them you will not have it a minute
later than 8:45 pm on December 12th. At this rate
that might be about when we deliver [laughter].
The movie is looking great, it’s sounding
great. We’re making a lot of last minute
changes. I asked ESPN at the end of the second
hour of the movie if they could have a
SportsCenter break, this just in ‘this just
in, SportsCenter, “The U” is going
into overtime” so we can make the movie a
little bit longer.
pC: What's one thing you learned from making
the film that you didn't already know about the
program?
BC: Well I’m tempted to just say
you have to watch the movie to find that out, but
I’ll give you one. Jimmy Johnson’s Thursday
night meetings, which I didn’t know about, but
hearing about it from Coach Johnson, from the players,
it took on a new life and a new depth and new meaning
to what was otherwise sort of anecdotal stories about
these mythical Thursday night meetings. Art Kehoe even
told us, that he wished that he had gone to one, but
never actually made it to one of the Thursday night
meetings. Commentary from the players and coaches of
things like that, that are really really compelling.
Everything else that I learned, that I didn’t
know about the team or the program I’m going to
let you watch the movie and find out for yourselves
something that maybe you didn’t know about the
program.
pC: How would you say this film is different
from other sports documentaries?
BC: First of all I don’t really
look at it as a sports documentary. I look at it as a
sports culture documentary. I look at it as a Miami
story. I look at as a lot of things, but not just a
sports documentary. I think it talks a lot about the
atmosphere in Miami in the 1980’s, the racial
tensions in the community, the fact that we had not
one, not two, but three incidents where police officers
murdered young black men that led to multiple race
riots over the course of the decade, starting 1980 with
the McDuffie murder and riots going all the way to 1989
with the Lozano shooting and subsequent civil unrest
and this was the environment and the neighborhoods
where a lot of the great players in South Florida were
recruited by Howard Schnellenberger and Jimmy Johnson
and it gave these players a perspective and a fire, a
passion for the game. As Mel Bratton put it
‘football was the way out of the hood.’
They played with that passion and that fire and that
swagger that nobody had ever seen anything like it
before. Not on TV, anyway. Hip Hop culture and street
swagger and Miami street swagger is now pretty much
mainstream, but back in the 1980’s that was not
what most of America knew. I think about pop culture
references to black America in the 1980 and we have the
Cosby Show and as far as music goes you had Run DMC,
which was pretty tame Rap music. Luther Campbell was
just coming on the scene, gangster rap was just coming
on to the scene, it was very controversial and not
ready for primetime. But here you had these players
also not ready for primetime but right there in living
color on your TV set every Saturday playing football
and displays that you had just never seen before.
That’s what the movie is about to me. Yes,
it’s a great team, yes it’s certainly about
four National Championships in a span of less than a
decade, but it’s about these men and these
personalities and the character and the characters that
made up this team.
pC: Some former players I have spoken to have
expressed concern over what sort of light the film will
portray the “U.” What would you say the
film is trying to portray?
BC: I’ll tell you this. I’ll
tell you this. ‘Canes lovers who watch the movie
are going to walk away from the movie still loving the
team and maybe loving them even more. ‘Canes
haters are going to walk away probably still hating the
‘Canes [laughter] for the same reasons they hated
them before, but I think with a new level of
appreciation or maybe even respect for how this team
changed; first pop culture, then college football, then
professional football maybe not in that order and
really professional sports in general. I think this is
a real opportunity for the team, the players, the
coaches to tell their story from their perspective and
respond, let’s say, to a lot of the criticism and
the negativity that’s been around. There’s
no doubt that we’re pretty objective in this
film, we do present the other side of the story. But
here you have first hand the Canes responding directly
to that criticism and that controversy. Whether or not
that makes everybody happy, whether or not that
generates more controversy, we’ll have to see
when the movie premiers. I don’t think anybody
will throw a bottle at my head like poor Dan Le Batard
[laughter]. He wrote something that pissed of a fan, I
really hope I will not have enter the witness
protection program after we premier this movie.

pC: You interviewed
Coach Dennis Erickson, Larry Coker, Jimmy Johnson
and Howard Schnellenberger. Talk about those
interviews and just the difference between the 4
coaches and what they had to say.
BC: Coach Coker unfortunately is not
going to be in the final cut of the movie, because we
do not go all the way to 2001. Originally when we had
conceived the movie we were possibly planning on going
to ’01. We’re not now. This is just going
to be the team of the 80’s, the Canes that were
recruited primarily by Schnellenberger and Jimmy
Johnson and that continued to play in the early
90’s and won in 89 and 91 with Coach Erickson.
Right up to the Pell Grant scandal and the sanctions is
kind of where we end our tale. In talking about Howard
Schnellenberger, Jimmy Johnson, and Dennis Erickson,
you could even tell today, interviewing them and
watching their interviews in the movie exactly the
kinds of personalities and exactly the kinds of coaches
that they were and that the players and assistant
coaches talk about. Their personalities are right there
perfectly on display.
With Schnellenberger you get the stature of this man
and the rich history of football that he brings to the
table. You understand the reverence that these players
had for him and you could practically still smell the
cherry flavored tobacco smoke coming down the hall
before he walks into a room and he’s a real
presence to this day. That growl low voice that he has
really contributes to the whole persona which continues
to this day and you really understand why the players
respected him, paid attention to him and did not want
to disappoint him. They wanted to go out and win for
him.
Jimmy Johnson, same thing. I mean you see Jimmy Johnson
on TV every week on Fox and he’s just got that
energy, and that enthusiasm, that passion, that fire
that these players came along with. I think Don Bailey
Junior told us in his interview, Jimmy Johnson had a
chip on his shoulder from his time at Oklahoma and
everything and he came in like a lot of these players
did, with that chip on his shoulder. And Jimmy talked
to us about how he could relate to a lot of these
players because he was the first person in his family
that went to college. A great line from the movie from
Dan Le Batard, which I was going to tell you, but I
think I am going to save it for the movie, it’s a
great line about the relationship and connection Jimmy
Johnson had with his players, motivating these players
the right away you can see why Jimmy Johnson became, as
Michael Irvin said: “A lot of the guys on the
team, myself included, didn’t have fathers, grew
up without fathers and Jimmy Johnson became all of our
fathers.’ You can see the warmth. I mean watching
the archival footage, Jimmy and the team in practice
and on the sidelines in games, in the locker room,
there’s always an arm around a shoulder, an
embrace after a touchdown, I mean there was a bond and
a level of warmth and not just respect but you know a
familial bond and a love for each other and the game
and that is so apparent in talking to Jimmy Johnson
today.
Robert Bailey said in his interview ‘Coach
Erickson was like when a substitute teacher comes into
class.’ Everybody is just going mess around as
much as possible and as much as they can get away with.
Erickson you can see, he said in his interview
‘that the players taught him more about football,
their lives, and their culture than he probably taught
them.’ At the same time you can see that this is
a guy knew enough to stay out of their way and to
devise tactics to channel their energy off the field
onto the field and into winning games on the field. You
can see that he is cool and quiet but at the same time
you can see he is calculating how to get these players
to do what they need to do to win games. There’s
no doubt that he did it, winning two national
championships.
pC: Did you talk to
some of the Hurricane QB greats? Talk about them
and their personalities.
BC: This is not a “Quarterback
U” documentary but you can’t make a
documentary about the Hurricanes in the
‘80’s and not talk to some of the great
quarterbacks. We talked to two in particular, both of
who won National Championships. We talked to Bernie
Kosar and Steve Walsh. Both were terrific and not
unlike the coaches, even to this day could understand
the personalities that made them leaders on the field.
Bernie Kosar was about as nice and gracious a man as I
have ever met. He actually did the interview less than
a week before the news broke about his financial
difficulties and it really broke my heart to read about
that in the Miami Herald. He really could not have been
a nicer guy, more gracious guy and less than a week
before that news broke, did not let on at any point
before, after or during the interview that he was
dealing with the kind of problems he was clearly
dealing with at that time and we really appreciate his
time, which he gave us quite a lot that day. His
insight into Howard Schnellenberger as a coach, some of
his teammates and what went into being a freshman
quarterback coming out of that quarterback preseason
contest of the ’83 season that Schnellenberger
had him and Vinny Testaverde endure to see who was
going to get that starting position. It’s
actually a great deleted scene from the movie that
hopefully will see the light of day somewhere online or
DVD about that quarterback competition and how Vinny
Testaverde was clearly, to coach Schnellenberger and to
Bernie Kosar, clearly the better athlete pound for
pound, pass for pass and how Schnellenberger just had a
feeling. They go into that season and lose that first
game against the University of Florida and perhaps this
looks like Schnellenberger‘s folly and
Schnellenberger famously said that he went back and
looked at the film from the game and determined that
play by play statistically the Hurricanes beat the
[Florida] Gators, just not in the final score and he
was able to, I think, instill that enthusiasm and that
inspiration in Bernie and in the players, that you were
clearly the better team there, now we have to make that
reflect on the scoreboard and that is what they did for
the rest of the season with this freshman quarterback
who ended up winning all of their [remaining] games and
go to the Orange Bowl against Nebraska for the National
Championship that year.

pC: What do you think
about the move to Land Shark Stadium?
BC: I was on the University of Miami
Citizen’s Board, a position that I resigned from,
as a result of a lack of cooperation the University
gave us on this project and I was on the Board when
Paul Dee came and made a presentation at a luncheon
about the options that the University was facing with
regard to which stadium to contract with, to have the
Hurricanes games and it broke my heart to see the
Orange bowl torn down, in fact it’s something,
that even though this movie is not about the Orange
Bowl and the destruction of the Orange Bowl plays a
very important visual element in our movie at the end
of it. It felt right especially because of the rich
history of the stadium. At the same time the
presentation that we saw, from a business standpoint,
was very clear that this move was inevitable, there was
nothing that was going to stop it from happening. From
a strictly business perspective it was a sound
decision, and as I said inevitable, a foregone
conclusion that they were going to move the team. What
you can’t really account for in a business
decision like that, the x-factor, we’ll call it
the “U-factor,” the
“OB-factor.” That is that element of
whether it is motivational, spiritual, psychological,
or what have you, that the Orange Bowl brings to the
table in terms of local excitement, community
excitement about the team and about the games. It was a
creaky piece of crap, that stadium, but it had not only
a lot of history, it felt a lot more like a college
stadium, certainly than already dated corporate
coldness of what is now Land Shark Stadium. So,
there’s definitely something to that.
I think the distance is not a major factor, students
can still take buses and everything up there, but I
think there is definitely, I mean you can see when the
team is number 8, number 9 [in the polls], attendance
has been pathetic this year at Land Shark,
there’s no doubt about it. I think there has been
more enthusiastic tailgating going on outside of the
stadium that fan support in the stadium. So whether or
not that’s just a testament to the
dissatisfaction the fans feel with the stadium change
or the fact that there’s been some beautiful
weather lately so there’s a lot of competition
for people’s time and attention. People get out
of bed and it’s a beautiful day and they’re
like ‘huh, beach or Land Shark Stadium?’
The fair-weather fans, as they call them. Ultimately,
like I said, it was a sound business decisions and an
inevitable one at that, but I think it’s going to
take a couple of year convince the community and the
fans at-large that this is something that they should
drive north to the county line to experience Hurricane
football.
Schnellenberger talked to us in his interview about the
plans he had for an on-campus stadium at the University
of Miami. But Schnellenberger has always been a major
proponent of that. Look at his plans at FAU right now.
He’s got a beautiful on-campus stadium and
shopping mall planned that he’s been actively
endorsing and getting support for and it’s a real
shame we can’t have that level of on-campus
enthusiasm at the University of Miami. Again,
there’s not a lot of options for playing football
in Miami-Dade county is the bottom line, unless
you’re going to build a stadium from scratch on
available land. You can’t play at the Bank
United/Convocation Center, you can’t play at Mark
Light Steroid Field, or whatever it’s called.
There’s only so many venues to play football and
when you looked at the business opportunity that the
City of Miami and the Orange Bowl was afforded with and
Dolphins Stadium was offering at the time, there was no
hope for the Orange Bowl, for the Hurricanes to
continue with the Orange Bowl. That was the final nail
in the coffin for a venue that took up a lot of
property, a lot of land, you can’t help but watch
the footage of it being torn down and wish that they
could have thought of some way to preserve that
structure and the history of that structure. I mean a
Marlins stadium? I mean really? Really? Is that
necessary?

pC: On your website,
you use the photo of the Ibis being detained by
FSU cops, why?
BC: Why not? [Laughter] Why not?
It’s actually going to be a great deleted scene,
John Routh, aka Sebastian the Ibis, telling us the
story of how he was beat down and handcuffed at Doak
Campbell Stadium by some troopers who were not happy
that he was going to use a fire hydrant to put out the
flaming spear [laughter]. It’s a great story and
also a wonderful image that is so emblematic of the
“bad boy” reputation that the Hurricanes
had at the time that appeared to even extend to our
mascot. I just think it’s one of those things
that really deserves to be preserved as the header on
our blog.
Read proCanes.com’s exclusive
interview and account of his run-in with the FSU
cops.
pC: After all the interviews you have done,
what's one word or phrase you think describes the
U. BC: Well I think “The U”
actually does a very effective job as a word or a
phrase that describes the U. It’s “the
U.” As McGahee would say ‘the U already
know.’ What more do you need to say really about
it? It’s become a brand. Howard Schnellenberger
tells us in his interview how when he first came to the
University he was giving the entire Football program an
entire overhaul in terms of the facilities, box office,
ticketing, the promotional materials, programs,
artwork, etc, people were coming to him asking him to
get rid of the U logo of the team. He said ‘why
would we get rid of the U? What are we going to make
it? We’re going to make it an M? There’s a
lot of M’s in the world, but there’ only
one U.’ He said ‘we’re going to make
that logo more recognizable than the IBM logo.’
He said that in 1979. That’s exactly what has
happened. One of the things we end the movie with is a
montage from Monday Night Football of former Canes
introducing themselves when they’re supposed to
say what college they went to, they just say ‘the
U.’

pC: After
interviewing all these former greats, what's one
thing you saw that they possessed or that made
them great that the current team and future teams
need to do to get back on top?
BC: I think I should leave the football
coaching to the football coaches [laughter]. Well the
football coaches and Sid Rosenberg and everybody on the
sports talk radio who like to do a lot of Monday
morning quarterbacking and Monday morning coaching. So
I don’t know if it’s necessarily what the
team needs to do now to get back on top, but I will
tell you that the relationship that this team had with
each other and with their coaches, it sounds trite, but
it was a family. The former players, the way they look
back at the new players and embrace them and try to
mentor them and train them, I think is extraordinary.
Michael Irvin told us in his interview, he had never
talked with another player in the pro’s [NFL]
that had the bond, relationship and talked as much
about his alma mater and was as enthusiastic about the
college team he played for as the former ‘Canes
are. When you’re facing a tough year, sometimes
teams break down into factions, sometimes there’s
support for coaches, there’s people against
coaches, it can become a very contentious environment
when you’re not winning. It’s easy to pull
together and be a family when you’re winning.
It’s tougher through the tough times, through the
hard times and that’s something this team really
used to do. They were winning and the world was
crapping on them. They would lose, at the Fiesta Bowl,
the world was crapping on them. You come off the loss
of the Fiesta Bowl, which Jimmy Johnson tells us in his
interview, was ‘the most devastating loss of his
entire career’ college or professional and a lot
of the players share that sentiment, if not most of
them. They came off of that loss, which was
devastating, they came back to the University of Miami,
back to Coral Gables and Jimmy Johnson nearly resigned
with the conflict he got into with President Tad Foote.
Tad Foote tried to implement the code of student
conduct for the players, the dress code, etc., the
players would have none of it. Here they were with the
entire nation’s media crapping all over them, and
here was the President of the University, and he came
to symbolize everything they were up against, because
they weren’t even feeling the love on campus at
home from their own administration. They pulled
together and came out the following year and won a
national championship. Again, with a brand new
quarterback, Steve Walsh, in the 1987 season.
What has to happen is that the team needs to pull
together as a family; I think this movie will actually
help, to tell you the truth. I think the team should
watch this movie and they should understand the modern
tradition, modern legacy of this team. This is not a
team steeped in hundreds of years of tradition. It is a
modern tradition a modern legacy, it is something
current players are very much part of, especially the
players from Schnellenberger ‘s fabled
“State of Miami,” you know these local
recruits that Randy Shannon has so passionately pursued
and I hope he continues to do so. Really, that’s
what they have to do. What the team needs to do is
watch this movie. They should watch it on a loop. They
should play it in the locker room endlessly. They
should just have to watch this movie over and over
again to be reminded of who the Hurricane are, where
they come from and what is expected of them. What is
expected of them is by their coaches, by the former
players, by their teammates, by their classmates, by
the campus, by the administration, by the community, by
the city of Miami and ‘Canes fans all over the
world, is to win. That’s all, it’s pretty
simple right, just to win. Nothing more is expected of
them, right?

pC: What is your next
project once you're done with ”The U?”
BC: Ha! Next project! We’re
already neck deep in the next projects. We’ve got
“Dawg Fight” about a ring of underground,
backyard fighting in South Florida, in Perrine,
specifically. Really intense story. We have a great
trailer for it online. We’re working on Cocaine
Cowboys 3 which is about “Los Muchachos”,
the boys Louis Falcon and Sal Magluta the most
successful and notorious Cuban cocaine smugglers in
Miami, in the 1980’s. Cocaine Cowboys One really
focused on the Columbians, now this is the Miami Cuban
cocaine smuggling story. We are working on Square
Grouper, which is kind of an unofficial prequel to
Cocaine Cowboys which is about marijuana smuggling in
Miami in the 1970’s, which is going to be
amazing. It looks extraordinary. The stories are, you
know, revelations. It’s more these characters
like John Roberts and Mickey Munday and Griselda Blanco
and Jorge “Rivi” Ayala. These people that
nobody, or very few people have heard of, that are just
going to knock your socks off. Interviews with people
that are telling the stories, your jaws are going to be
on the ground. What else are we working on? Ah yes,
“Peter Gatien Project.” Now we’re
working on a 90’s ecstasy movie, takes place in
New York, around the nightclub scene and how the city
of New York and the Feds cracked down on ecstasy and
nightclubs in New York in an effort to clean up the
city. They really made public enemies of the local
nightclub owners of New York in an effort to get rid of
ecstasy and clean up New York. Other than that nothing
is going on! Of course I would love to do a sequel to
“The U” about the 2001 team, we could call
it “The U 2” or something like that.
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